Kenny Miller

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/16588143.shock-and-anger-kick-in-following-kenny-millers-sacking-by-livingston/

The Herald are in on the act now. Oh the joys of being a Livi fan!

Predictable that they use words like "sacked" and statements like the the players "are furious he has lost his job"when the Halkett interview seems to indicate a more "its a surprise but that's life" kind of attitude.

To be honest this isn't the first time the question of Martindale's real involvement has come up. His continued involvement and the fact that any manager coming in will need to work with/for him is always going to be a bit of a challenge. That being said a number of the hacks seem to have him securely in their sights now.

Incidentally it appears David Hopkins has definitely ruled himself out of returning to the club.

We need an experienced steadying hand in. For me Jim Duffy would fit that role.

orco wrote:We need an experienced steadying hand in. For me Jim Duffy would fit that role.

I tend to agree with you there Orco; no frills; no flashy suits; just roll your sleeves up and get on with the job.

Also think he's wise enough to manage Martindale; not the other way around.

I do believe that Martindale has had a huge baring on the success of the club over the past few years, but feel he'd be better suited in a DoF role, with the new manager bringing in their own assistant.

orco wrote:We need an experienced steadying hand in. For me Jim Duffy would fit that role.

Saw on the bbc website Preston saying this too, but he mentioned John Hughes so I stopped reading it.

Liviforever wrote:

orco wrote:We need an experienced steadying hand in. For me Jim Duffy would fit that role.

Saw on the bbc website Preston saying this too, but he mentioned John Hughes so I stopped reading it.

[THUMP]

(sound of falling off chair onto the floor)

Stories coming out confirming what we all suspected, Miller's ego was far too big and came before the club. Just glad the club didn't mess about and let him damage our league campaign before sorting it out, well done them, and all the media and pundits can go do one with their garbage, having a go at the club.

Liviforever wrote:Stories coming out confirming what we all suspected, Miller's ego was far too big and came before the club. Just glad the club didn't mess about and let him damage our league campaign before sorting it out, well done them,  and all the media and pundits can go do one with their garbage, having a go at the club.

If this was Facebook and give that a "like" Lfe.

Lots of stories flying around at the moment including something about a fracas at the club a couple of weeks back (presumably Killie game?) where a family member assaulted a fan. This could be as much hot air as some of the other stories and it did come from a scandal merchant could be complete guff.

To be honesty I think the personality thing is a bit of a red herring; I think we all knew what we were getting when Miller signed on; he was never going to be the quietly meek manager who would allow himself to be pushed around; he certainly wasn't that as a player so was unlikely to change as a player manager. I assume this is something that was considered when it was decided to have a probationary period.

All in all it does look like we're open season at the moment - see the latest one to be linked with the club is Tony Adams (ex Arsenal)

The Motherwell game was the last straw for me, and by the looks of things Martindale and the board too, the fact he played himself the full 90 mins and didn't even try new things when having a break from the league tells us everything we needed to know for the season ahead. It would've come to a head for the fans when Hardie was back in a week or two, Miller would've still been first choice. He messed about with a lot of players being tried in defence and midfield but he never dropped himself to see how we got on, it was always the Kenny Miller show.

The difference with past player/managers we've had and Kenny Miller is, Lambert and Burchill were ready to be managers and wanted to give the players a go, esp Lambert, he only pulled on the boots when we were struggling, and at least Burchill played as a striker chasing about up front, Miller however wanted to keep playing till he was in his 40's, he really isn't ready for management. And from what I've seen he's not a hope in hell of playing for another 6 or 7 years, not at this level anyway.