Livi v Killie

This game is up in the air just now with Killie having a mass covid outbreak, with 6 positive tests before the Motherwell game that got cancelled, and them forfeiting their Betfred cup game 3-0 to Falkirk. However the bbc reporting they're going to play a Betfred game on Tues night, saying 6 senior players are available and the rest will be made up of youth players.

Just have to wait and see how things progress this week for news if this game will go ahead.

Saw this on twitter.

Raman Bhardwaj
@ramanbhardwajTV
Kilmarnock latest
-club asked for match on Sat to be postponed - Livi said no
- Alex Dyer believes Killie will be cleared of any wrongdoing re SPFL investigation and potential covid protocol breach
- Dyer - unfair to play under 18s in cup match without senior players

So game is on, unless the SPFL decide to cancel it, shouldn't be put on Livi to be made the villian for not agreeing to postpone the game though. St Mirren didn't get their game postponed when all of their keepers had to self isolate, if Killie don't want to play then forfeit the game and Livi win 3-0. It has already happened in the Betfred up with a couple of clubs.

If what Raman Bhardwaj is saying is true that it's beyond ridiculous. The SPL should be the arbitrers here. It is unfair to leave it up to any of the clubs involved. Time they earned their daily bread. Livi saying no unfairly makes them the bad guys.

orco wrote:If what Raman Bhardwaj is saying is true that it's beyond ridiculous. The SPL should be the arbitrers here. It is unfair to leave it up to any of the clubs involved. Time they earned their daily bread. Livi saying no unfairly makes them the bad guys.

Don't think it's the SPFL's fault yet, as far as i can see this is on Killie trying to put pressure on Livi to agree to postpone it for a few days to give them the time to get a full squad ready against us, the SPFL haven't had anything to do with this yet, as far as they're concerned the game is going ahead. Dyer tried to get us pressured into delaying the match, we told him no, so now he's trying to make us the bad guys, feck him.

Why should Livi delay the game and then have less preparation time for the Sevco game next Saturday, all to suit Kilmarnock, don't think so, can bet anything they wouldn't have done it for us either, and quite rightly so.

Yeh,agree Orco. Hopefully we are never put in this position but not niave enough to think we wont.Tottally unfair if we are made to look like scapegoats here.Let the beaks make the decision. If the boot was on the other foot im sure we would abide by the ruling albeit such a sensitive subject. Would come up when weve got a wee bit momentum going too.Hopefully it gets sorted one way or another.

Troy wrote:Yeh,agree Orco. Hopefully we are never put in this position but not niave enough to think we wont.Tottally unfair if we are made to look like scapegoats here.Let the beaks make the decision. If the boot was on the other foot im sure we would abide by the ruling albeit such a sensitive subject. Would come up when weve got a wee bit momentum going too.Hopefully it gets sorted one way or another.

They have though, it's Killie trying to pull a fast one and get us to back them up going to the SPFL to ask for the game to be delayed for a few days. They know if they went alone they'd be told to just get on with it, same as St Mirren had to when all their keepers went into isolation.

So what it is now, Killie will have their full squad back training on Wed, get another test before playing us on Sat, and wanted us to push the game back to Mon or Tues to give them more time to prepare for our game. Thus in turn leaving us less time to prepare for our game against Sevco the following weekend. And Dyer is saying he wanted fairness because of what Killie have went through, and putting it on Livi for not being fair/mugs for Killie.

Aye very good, go do one Dyer.

Win win for Dyer. Either he gets his extra days which help the team or Livi refuse and he fires his players up with a sense of righteous indignation against an unreasonable team.
Livi should never have had to become involved.

Was wondering if the fact that Gary has an obvious connection with Killie, would they have expected him to be more sympathetic to their plight.Aa has been said,this should not have been put on Livi and left to others to make a decision. Hope the game goes ahead.

Fair enough to ask for a delay; no problem in asking; but to go bleating to the press about it afterwards is really s##t!

I see they're also moaning about having to play their betfred cup game with half a dozen from the under 18's saying they havent had chance to prepare. They knew about this over a week ago jet chose not to take action and get their under 18's up to speed and now are moaning about not having trained???

REALLY?

Incidentally didn't Hearts play a cup match against us with a team made up almost exclusively of under 21's and under 18's so they could concentrate on promotion - think the score was either 4-1 or 5-1 but the youngsters didnt seem particularly traumatised by the event.

It'll go ahead unless a midweek covid test comes back with more positive results and they can't field a team, Dyer mentions having to have 13 players able to play.

He's doing an awful lot of complaining for someone who later says he's happy to just get on with it.

I've no problem with him getting in touch with Livi to ask for a delay to give him more time to prepare, that bit is fair enough, but to then go running his mouth off on twitter and to the press telling everyone that Livi refused to delay the match by a few days, and greet about us being unfair and selfish, he can fuck right off with that pish. It isn't on Livi to do him favours when it inconveniences us. He's only looking at this from a Killie point of view, then accusing us of doing the same whilst trying to look like the injured party. Very Hearts esque Ann Budge with that patter.

Durnford wrote:Fair enough to ask for a delay; no problem in asking; but to go bleating to the press about it afterwards is really s##t!

I see they're also moaning about having to play their betfred cup game with half a dozen from the under 18's saying they havent had chance to prepare. They knew about this over a week ago jet chose not to take action and get their under 18's up to speed and now are moaning about not having trained???

REALLY?

Incidentally didn't Hearts play a cup match against us with a team made up almost exclusively of under 21's and under 18's so they could concentrate on promotion - think the score was either 4-1 or 5-1 but the youngsters didnt seem particularly traumatised by the event.

Yep, and Killie put in a colts team to the challenge cup playing lower league teams, so what's the difference doing it in a Betfred game. He's full of pish.

The Czechs had to field a load of players from all over the Country against Scotland when their whole national team had to self isolate, it isn't something that poor wee Killie are just being made to do. They can always forfeit the game and give us a 3-0 win if he wants, the twat.

Isn't even the first time it has happened to an SPFL team, Accies have had their training interrupted with positive tests and not been able to get in a full weeks training before a game. Didn't hear Rice greetin about it and asking a team to delay the match, or at least if he did he didn't go telling everyone about it.

Havent felt this uneasy about a game than at the moment for obvious reasons.We are in a no win situation here.If they put out a weakend team and we do them the knives will be out,especially after refusing the postponement they asked for.Nah,fech them.As ive said before points are as important to us as they are to them.It could happen to us,but until it does weve got to get as many points on the board as possible should that eventuality arise. So get into them Livi.Oh and no technical issues Please.

Aye we're in a no win situation in the post match comments, Dyer has got his get out of jail card at the ready if we beat them, and we'll get no credit for it, lose and it'll be a rid neck. However JET hadn't played for a whole year and he was one of our best players against Alloa, so i don't believe their players wont be up for it and not capable of beating us. This dying swan routine they're pulling shouldn't fool us, we need to be professional and get right in about them, playing our usual game, and taking no prisoners.

Really hoping Stryjek keeps the shirt for this game, but i'd bring Tiffoney back in and have JET on the bench for a 65th minute substitution. Big fella isn't up to speed fitness wise yet and Tiffs can run himself into the ground against Killie's defenders to soften them up for JET to come on and run over the top of them.
So apart from Stryjek coming in, Mullin would be my only other change to our usual team, he has to start after his first 2 games in the Betfred cup, bummer for Robbo but Josh is a natural wide player to balance Forrest on the other side of Pittman.

Hope we get an early goal and run out comfortable winners, but like Troy i'm a little bit uneasy going into this, Killie will be well fired up for it.

Good call about JET
L/F.Tiffs would certainly run at their defence thus hopefully knackering them before the big man sets about them.Think Mcrorie will be back between the sticks though. Gary,s got problems alright,but good ones with so many places being competitive. Trying not to get sucked in by their woes.Weve got to be ruthless from the off. No room for sentiment here.

Yeah reckon Killie will be full of fight and dangerous in the first half, but should fade in the second, if we can contain them for that period i reckon we'd score a goal or 2 later on, esp if we bring JET on against tired players.

This is by no means a gimme, as the Killie fans would have us believe, still expecting a tough game. An early Livi goal would be brilliant too, give us something to hang onto, while letting Killie players burn themselves out, then go for the final ko in the last quarter of the game.

That's my game plan anyway, hope it pans out like that.

Yeah, they will be up for it, we just have to hope we are more up for it.

A win would help put some distance between us & the bottom end & set us up well for the next chunk of the season.

We're currently a point less than where we were at the same stage last season, a win would put us a point ahead of where we were after 11 games last season, some turn around that would be.

Greg Aitken refereeing the game, hope Holt has had us preparing to play with 10 men in training all week.


My money is on Serrano or Devlin getting our obligatory red card from him, Marv and Holt having short odds too, and for a complete long shot with good odds, stick a quid on JET, who never gets booked let alone red carded, but it's Aitken so always a first time.

Liviforever wrote:Greg Aitken refereeing the game, hope Holt has had us preparing to play with 10 men in training all week.


My money is on Serrano or Devlin getting our obligatory red card from him, Marv and Holt having short odds too, and for a complete long shot with good odds, stick a quid on JET, who never gets booked let alone red carded, but it's Aitken so always a first time.

Just make my weekend why don't you!!!!!!

Liviforever wrote:Greg Aitken refereeing the game, hope Holt has had us preparing to play with 10 men in training all week.


My money is on Serrano or Devlin getting our obligatory red card from him, Marv and Holt having short odds too, and for a complete long shot with good odds, stick a quid on JET, who never gets booked let alone red carded, but it's Aitken so always a first time.

Doom & gloom??? Who are you & what have you done with LF?

Bertie Bassett wrote:

Liviforever wrote:Greg Aitken refereeing the game, hope Holt has had us preparing to play with 10 men in training all week.


My money is on Serrano or Devlin getting our obligatory red card from him, Marv and Holt having short odds too, and for a complete long shot with good odds, stick a quid on JET, who never gets booked let alone red carded, but it's Aitken so always a first time.

Doom & gloom??? Who are you & what have you done with LF?

Afraid booking stats don't lie, Aitken loves sending Livi players off, it was him that ignored Robbo being fouled by the Hearts GK, then red carded Souda for an overhead kick seconds later.

Also Aitken that didn't give Lawless a penalty when he was fouled, instead booked him for diving, and we got it rescinded on appeal.

So as well as having a penchant for dishing out cards to us, he likes ignoring fouls on our players in the opposition penalty box.

In spite of that, i still think we'll win, is that better Bertie?

Drum roll, team news in four minutes, will Stryjek keep his starting position?

And McCrorie comes back into the starting XI, not much more Styjek can do really, he's had 3 good performances when he's had his chance in goals, and has pulled off outstanding saves in each game. Wouldn't wish it on anyone but looks like it'll have to take an injury for him to get into the the starting line up and replace McCrorie as our number One.

Big JET on the subs bench, at least that's good news, looking forward to seeing him come on against tired Killie players in the 2nd half.

Their front 3 look strong.Just hope our defence is up to scratch.Knew Mcrorie would be back in.And as weve said,big JET waiting in the wings for Tiffs etc to tire them out.