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Hips did nothing
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He connected well with a few other players and played a key role in keeping the ball on the ground within the final 3rd. 3 players attempted to take the throwing which resulted in our equaliser, no doubt the other 2 would have thrown it to a player 2 yards in front of them and been caught out - Hips got it right into the mixer.
He was one of the key players who changed the game.
He was one of the key players who changed the game.
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Mullen changed the game and should start wide right/upfront taking the place of McKenna who is consistently shit and not cut out for this level both Jacobs bros had a shocker today along with O'Brien and Sives who surely will be dropped for big Mensing. Hippo could easily start left mid as he is a threat and is skillfull although hasn't got a great work ethic defensively and that's why he doesn't start. Again DJ was suspect for that 2nd goal today but was getting blamed for the first goal which he could do nothing about. We still don't play White in just hoof-ball the one chance he got was heading in the top corner before their defender saved it, how the ref didn't give that is beyond me, granted he should win more in the air but worked hard today against constant fouling. I personally wouldn't go with two young and inexperienced players upfront that are very similar. Glen is coming on to a game these days and overall it was a great comeback which shows fight.
My team selection for Annan:
DJ
K.Jacobs Mensing Dycey Talbot
Ke.Jacobs. Robertson Hippo
Glen
White Mullen
My team selection for Annan:
DJ
K.Jacobs Mensing Dycey Talbot
Ke.Jacobs. Robertson Hippo
Glen
White Mullen
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When everyone is it, this is our best team:
DJ
Kyle Mensing Gallagher Talbot
Keags O'Brien Robertson or McKenna
Glen
Hips Mullen
Next Saturday take Gallagher out of that and play Fordyce. Don't rate White at all. A big lanky useless fud.
DJ
Kyle Mensing Gallagher Talbot
Keags O'Brien Robertson or McKenna
Glen
Hips Mullen
Next Saturday take Gallagher out of that and play Fordyce. Don't rate White at all. A big lanky useless fud.
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Livi2IDie- Posts : 78
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We have 3 winnable games coming up I expect 3 wins regardless of who plays.
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Livi2IDie wrote:Hips did nothing
You're joking right?
He hit a cracking shot on target, put a ball through for a shot, and set up our 2nd goal with his long throw in. Apart from that he lifts the tempo when he gets on the ball and you can see players backing off when he gets the ball because he'll take them on.
Would start both him and Mullen next game and give them a run of games to give them a chance to get some momentum in games, not just the odd 20 mins here and there, esp as it'll be against lower half half teams.
Thought Keaghan was our best player, ran our midfield and was the only one in there taking the ball on runs and trying to make things happen. Kyle had a stinker, was set up on a plate for him on the edge of the box and his wild shot summed up his day. White is still getting those high balls knocked up to him despite it being obv to everyone but our players he can't fecking win a header. Well not many anyway as the fans gave a sarcastic cheer right at the end when he won one. Get the ball to his feet and stop this madness. Queens were as bad with balls hit high to ther short arsed striker Baird, Sives just towered over him to win every header, despite that Sives was at fault for both our goals and needs dropped.
Over the moon to get a point here, thought we were dead and buried at 1-0 let alone 2, just shows what a goal can do for us, immediately put Queens under pressure and gave us a lift, I believe we'd have won that with a few more minutes and almost did with that header at the end. Dunno what it is with Livi v Queens, we seem to cancel one another out and always ends in a draw after 90 mins.
Hopefully this gives us a belief going into our next game and the goals keep on coming.
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Liviforever wrote:Livi2IDie wrote:Hips did nothing
You're joking right?
He hit a cracking shot on target, put a ball through for a shot, and set up our 2nd goal with his long throw in. Apart from that he lifts the tempo when he gets on the ball and you can see players backing off when he gets the ball because he'll take them on.
Would start both him and Mullen next game and give them a run of games to give them a chance to get some momentum in games, not just the odd 20 mins here and there, esp as it'll be against lower half half teams.
Thought Keaghan was our best player, ran our midfield and was the only one in there taking the ball on runs and trying to make things happen. Kyle had a stinker, was set up on a plate for him on the edge of the box and his wild shot summed up his day. White is still getting those high balls knocked up to him despite it being obv to everyone but our players he can't fecking win a header. Well not many anyway as the fans gave a sarcastic cheer right at the end when he won one. Get the ball to his feet and stop this madness. Queens were as bad with balls hit high to ther short arsed striker Baird, Sives just towered over him to win every header, despite that Sives was at fault for both our goals and needs dropped.
Over the moon to get a point here, thought we were dead and buried at 1-0 let alone 2, just shows what a goal can do for us, immediately put Queens under pressure and gave us a lift, I believe we'd have won that with a few more minutes and almost did with that header at the end. Dunno what it is with Livi v Queens, we seem to cancel one another out and always ends in a draw after 90 mins.
Hopefully this gives us a belief going into our next game and the goals keep on coming.
Hippo ok on reflection he's does give energy and deserves a start but in my opinion, where he came on today from left mid.
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Livi2IDie wrote:Liviforever wrote:Livi2IDie wrote:Hips did nothing
You're joking right?
He hit a cracking shot on target, put a ball through for a shot, and set up our 2nd goal with his long throw in. Apart from that he lifts the tempo when he gets on the ball and you can see players backing off when he gets the ball because he'll take them on.
Would start both him and Mullen next game and give them a run of games to give them a chance to get some momentum in games, not just the odd 20 mins here and there, esp as it'll be against lower half half teams.
Thought Keaghan was our best player, ran our midfield and was the only one in there taking the ball on runs and trying to make things happen. Kyle had a stinker, was set up on a plate for him on the edge of the box and his wild shot summed up his day. White is still getting those high balls knocked up to him despite it being obv to everyone but our players he can't fecking win a header. Well not many anyway as the fans gave a sarcastic cheer right at the end when he won one. Get the ball to his feet and stop this madness. Queens were as bad with balls hit high to ther short arsed striker Baird, Sives just towered over him to win every header, despite that Sives was at fault for both our goals and needs dropped.
Over the moon to get a point here, thought we were dead and buried at 1-0 let alone 2, just shows what a goal can do for us, immediately put Queens under pressure and gave us a lift, I believe we'd have won that with a few more minutes and almost did with that header at the end. Dunno what it is with Livi v Queens, we seem to cancel one another out and always ends in a draw after 90 mins.
Hopefully this gives us a belief going into our next game and the goals keep on coming.
Hippo ok on reflection he's does give energy and deserves a start but in my opinion, where he came on today from left mid.
Yeah would start him instead of McKenna, think McKenna has struggled in our last few games and could do with a break for a bit. Surprised with Hippo's throw in, was wondering what was going on with two players dropping the ball after takng it in turns to pick it up for the throw in and then Hippo taking it. Thought we're 2-1 down here get on with it, then he got it right into the 6 yard box to cause the scramble for our goal. They obv had that one rehearsed after discovering how long he could throw the ball.
On an aside, how dodgy was their keeper, actually disappointed we didn't get a goal from him dropping nearly every high ball we put into their box.
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Right, I've deleted all the posts I found were unnecessary in relation to the game. I don't want to this forum to be somewhere where you can't argue with other members and in truth, I'll let you away with a bit of a slagging match provided it's not too risqué as it turned into last night. I've thought in the past it has got a bit dodgy but subsequently people arguing have had a good laugh with each other when disagreeing with each other which is exactly what this forum should be about.
I would imagine the club may look at the forum so I'd advise members to be on decent behaviour and watch what they say, should they not want to face repercussions from them. Bear in mind what also happened recently with the programme editor and what he published online and the subsequent backlash on the back of that. Let this serve as a warning.
We scored for the first time in 6 league games and came back from 2-0 down in the last 10 mins to get a point, fucking cheer up.
I would imagine the club may look at the forum so I'd advise members to be on decent behaviour and watch what they say, should they not want to face repercussions from them. Bear in mind what also happened recently with the programme editor and what he published online and the subsequent backlash on the back of that. Let this serve as a warning.
We scored for the first time in 6 league games and came back from 2-0 down in the last 10 mins to get a point, fucking cheer up.
Livi2IDie- Posts : 78
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Lexi Collector wrote:When everyone is it, this is our best team:
DJ
Kyle Mensing Gallagher Talbot
Keags O'Brien Robertson or McKenna
Glen
Hips Mullen
Next Saturday take Gallagher out of that and play Fordyce. Don't rate White at all. A big lanky useless fud.
Aye we know you don't rate White cause you've not got a clue, he's defo been useless all season, idiot!!
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Well said EL some concerns about the ned elements at the games which don't help the club or the team at all. Let's see the positives and get behind the team at the game. I even heard some boos when Mullen was introduced. Just goes to show what some fans know about football. Yesterday was a great comeback but to totally change the team by starting hippo and Mullen instead of White and Glen would not be a good ide at all. Hippo has been given a start on a few occassions and has been subbed he is a great impact player IMO. Danny on the other hand is a decent player who could do a better job than McKenna. Kyleis abetter right back than centre mid and keaghan had a better game at right mid than centre mid. Rutherford. Did ok not as good as some think but ok. Would be good to get mensing and Gallagher back. Right back Kyle left back Talbot. Midfield of. Keaghan Bobo Robertson Mullen and White and Glen up top. Maybe also time to have a look at giving Paul Grant a run out in goals as felt the keeper was a bit at fault for second goal yesterday too. Think he is a great shot stopper but he always seem to cost us goals. But well done to the team for getting two points from the last two games. Onwards and upwardsEdinburghLivi wrote:Right, I've deleted all the posts I found were unnecessary in relation to the game. I don't want to this forum to be somewhere where you can't argue with other members and in truth, I'll let you away with a bit of a slagging match provided it's not too risqué as it turned into last night. I've thought in the past it has got a bit dodgy but subsequently people arguing have had a good laugh with each other when disagreeing with each other which is exactly what this forum should be about.
I would imagine the club may look at the forum so I'd advise members to be on decent behaviour and watch what they say, should they not want to face repercussions from them. Bear in mind what also happened recently with the programme editor and what he published online and the subsequent backlash on the back of that. Let this serve as a warning.
We scored for the first time in 6 league games and came back from 2-0 down in the last 10 mins to get a point, fucking cheer up.
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What has Mullen done badly this season to merit being booed? Probably the most underrated player this season.
Mental.
Mental.
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yeah some of our fans are mental. Some of them post on here too lolEdinburghLivi wrote:What has Mullen done badly this season to merit being booed? Probably the most underrated player this season.
Mental.
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I heard some negative comments and groans, didn't hear boos, mentioned to a mate it was like when hamill used to come on he'd get groans and stuff from our fans. I think Mullen has been so so this season, prob expectation on him was too high as he's not really had a lot of game time experience at the level he's playing this season, against the players the big 3 have and is still learning. His awareness isn't great at times and gets caught on the ball, but he puts in some shift and doesn't hide, gets into a hell of a lot of good attacking positions too which at least gives us shots at goal, or puts defenders under pressure.
Tbh I didn't think he had it in him to take on 4 players and turn them inside out, two were on their backside as he shot at goal. Fantastic goal and well hit.
Tbh I didn't think he had it in him to take on 4 players and turn them inside out, two were on their backside as he shot at goal. Fantastic goal and well hit.
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Was a fantastic goal from the wee man. He deserves a start before McKenna any day of the week.Liviforever wrote:I heard some negative comments and groans, didn't hear boos, mentioned to a mate it was like when hamill used to come on he'd get groans and stuff from our fans. I think Mullen has been so so this season, prob expectation on him was too high as he's not really had a lot of game time experience at the level he's playing this season, against the players the big 3 have and is still learning. His awareness isn't great at times and gets caught on the ball, but he puts in some shift and doesn't hide, gets into a hell of a lot of good attacking positions too which at least gives us shots at goal, or puts defenders under pressure.
Tbh I didn't think he had it in him to take on 4 players and turn them inside out, two were on their backside as he shot at goal. Fantastic goal and well hit.
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Livi2IDie wrote:Lexi Collector wrote:When everyone is it, this is our best team:
DJ
Kyle Mensing Gallagher Talbot
Keags O'Brien Robertson or McKenna
Glen
Hips Mullen
Next Saturday take Gallagher out of that and play Fordyce. Don't rate White at all. A big lanky useless fud.
Aye we know you don't rate White cause you've not got a clue, he's defo been useless all season, idiot!!
Where have I said he's been useless all season? He had a good game against Alloa, and looked pretty handy against Cowdenbeath too, but other than that and his penalty against QOS, he's looked well out of place. Yesterday for example, headed over the bar from about 6 yards out whilst under fairly little pressure. He also failed to hit the target from a slightly wide effort about 4/5 yards out. McGlynn uses him as a target man, but he seems uncomfortable in the air. He's played at this level before and hasn't cut it.
I admit that last night I was bantering you because I felt (feel) that you aren't very sharp, and shouldn't have called him a 'useless h*n', as the boy plays for Livi and should get all of support - so I apologise for that, wasn't clever at all.
P.s I new you weren't Jordan White - fact remains I don't rate him too highly.
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Livi2IDie wrote:Lexi Collector wrote:When everyone is it, this is our best team:
DJ
Kyle Mensing Gallagher Talbot
Keags O'Brien Robertson or McKenna
Glen
Hips Mullen
Next Saturday take Gallagher out of that and play Fordyce. Don't rate White at all. A big lanky useless fud.
Aye we know you don't rate White cause you've not got a clue, he's defo been useless all season, idiot!!
Tbh, it was obvious that Lexi was just bantering you.
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Fact remains you only rate him when he scores,so that shows you have limited football intelligence. He would be in my team week after week because he is one of our most talented and hardest working players we have at the moment.Lexi Collector wrote:Livi2IDie wrote:Lexi Collector wrote:When everyone is it, this is our best team:
DJ
Kyle Mensing Gallagher Talbot
Keags O'Brien Robertson or McKenna
Glen
Hips Mullen
Next Saturday take Gallagher out of that and play Fordyce. Don't rate White at all. A big lanky useless fud.
Aye we know you don't rate White cause you've not got a clue, he's defo been useless all season, idiot!!
Where have I said he's been useless all season? He had a good game against Alloa, and looked pretty handy against Cowdenbeath too, but other than that and his penalty against QOS, he's looked well out of place. Yesterday for example, headed over the bar from about 6 yards out whilst under fairly little pressure. He also failed to hit the target from a slightly wide effort about 4/5 yards out. McGlynn uses him as a target man, but he seems uncomfortable in the air. He's played at this level before and hasn't cut it.
I admit that last night I was bantering you because I felt (feel) that you aren't very sharp, and shouldn't have called him a 'useless h*n', as the boy plays for Livi and should get all of support - so I apologise for that, wasn't clever at all.
P.s I new you weren't Jordan White - fact remains I don't rate him too highly.
Fortunately Mr McGlynn sees it the same way as myself as he plays every game and does not get subbed. I think he maybe knows a wee bit more about football than you. I know you will not agree with me but I won't lose any sleep over it. Ps well done on your apology it was a silly thing to say.
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White was just a youngster when he played for Falkirk, you can't judge him back then and write him off.
We all can see he's no good at getting high balls punted up to him, isn't his fault we keep giving him balls he isn't going to win it's McGlynn's. Play high balls up to Mullen and you'll get sod all too.
Get the ball down and do what Mullen did yesterday and White will get into poaching positions to feed off that, he's no bad at getting a shot in on the turn and has put it narrowly wide in our last two games when he got half a chance. If we give him better service I'm convinced he'll start scoring again.
We all can see he's no good at getting high balls punted up to him, isn't his fault we keep giving him balls he isn't going to win it's McGlynn's. Play high balls up to Mullen and you'll get sod all too.
Get the ball down and do what Mullen did yesterday and White will get into poaching positions to feed off that, he's no bad at getting a shot in on the turn and has put it narrowly wide in our last two games when he got half a chance. If we give him better service I'm convinced he'll start scoring again.
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Unlike lexi you have football intelligence. You are spot on with your viewpoint.Liviforever wrote:White was just a youngster when he played for Falkirk, you can't judge him back then and write him off.
We all can see he's no good at getting high balls punted up to him, isn't his fault we keep giving him balls he isn't going to win it's McGlynn's. Play high balls up to Mullen and you'll get sod all too.
Get the ball down and do what Mullen did yesterday and White will get into poaching positions to feed off that, he's no bad at getting a shot in on the turn and has put it narrowly wide in our last two games when he got half a chance. If we give him better service I'm convinced he'll start scoring again.
Yesterday he had a decent ball chipped into him from Hippo which he took a touch and had a great shot only for a certain goal to be thwarted by a handball , if the pen would have been given as it should then White would have scored the pen.
Two key words for White to get back scoring goals is as you said ...... Better service.
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Smithy wrote:Unlike lexi you have football intelligence. You are spot on with your viewpoint.Liviforever wrote:White was just a youngster when he played for Falkirk, you can't judge him back then and write him off.
We all can see he's no good at getting high balls punted up to him, isn't his fault we keep giving him balls he isn't going to win it's McGlynn's. Play high balls up to Mullen and you'll get sod all too.
Get the ball down and do what Mullen did yesterday and White will get into poaching positions to feed off that, he's no bad at getting a shot in on the turn and has put it narrowly wide in our last two games when he got half a chance. If we give him better service I'm convinced he'll start scoring again.
Yesterday he had a decent ball chipped into him from Hippo which he took a touch and had a great shot only for a certain goal to be thwarted by a handball , if the pen would have been given as it should then White would have scored the pen.
Two key words for White to get back scoring goals is as you said ...... Better service.
Lol thanks.
Well it's all about opinions but we both agree on White needing better service. I think we can all agree hitting high balls up isn't getting us anything, and when we play it through midfield or get it up the wing then we at least create chances.
I was pleased with the pressure we put on the ball yesterday too, we made Queens look bad because we broke down play in midfield. Just need to get some composure on the ball ourselves and string some passes together but we're certainly showing signs of improvement.
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Smithy wrote:Fact remains you only rate him when he scores,so that shows you have limited football intelligence. He would be in my team week after week because he is one of our most talented and hardest working players we have at the moment.Lexi Collector wrote:Livi2IDie wrote:Lexi Collector wrote:When everyone is it, this is our best team:
DJ
Kyle Mensing Gallagher Talbot
Keags O'Brien Robertson or McKenna
Glen
Hips Mullen
Next Saturday take Gallagher out of that and play Fordyce. Don't rate White at all. A big lanky useless fud.
Aye we know you don't rate White cause you've not got a clue, he's defo been useless all season, idiot!!
Where have I said he's been useless all season? He had a good game against Alloa, and looked pretty handy against Cowdenbeath too, but other than that and his penalty against QOS, he's looked well out of place. Yesterday for example, headed over the bar from about 6 yards out whilst under fairly little pressure. He also failed to hit the target from a slightly wide effort about 4/5 yards out. McGlynn uses him as a target man, but he seems uncomfortable in the air. He's played at this level before and hasn't cut it.
I admit that last night I was bantering you because I felt (feel) that you aren't very sharp, and shouldn't have called him a 'useless h*n', as the boy plays for Livi and should get all of support - so I apologise for that, wasn't clever at all.
P.s I new you weren't Jordan White - fact remains I don't rate him too highly.
Fortunately Mr McGlynn sees it the same way as myself as he plays every game and does not get subbed. I think he maybe knows a wee bit more about football than you. I know you will not agree with me but I won't lose any sleep over it. Ps well done on your apology it was a silly thing to say.
I don't rate White at all, scoring goals or not. One of more hard working players? Maybe, aye. Most talented? Says a lot for the rest of the squad. There's absolutely no doubt that Hips is more talented than White. His shooting is more powerful and accurate than White. His touch, vision and control is far superior also. Hips is a boy with serious talent, and if you can get him in goal scoring positions, he's a massive weapon.
Mullen showed his potential and class yesterday with both his finish and the lead up to the goal, possibly the best league goal we've scored all season. He looks far more comfortable on the ball than White, and we all know things have to change up front, so after his display yesterday (y'know, when he and Hips completely changed the game) he deserves to start.
White was given service on the ground yesterday and completely fluffed it - not or the first time. McGlynn sees him as a target man, but these tactics have proved to be utterly ineffective. Mullen, Hips and even Glen showed more goal threat yesterday.
You're slagging my football intelligence, but I was the first to point out (by some time, btw) that McGlynn and his tactics were all wrong, and it took weeks for everyone else to catch on. We've been playing White under what McGlynn believes to be his strengths and couldn't score a league goal for something like 7 weeks. Yet when McGlynn reverts to the system I suggest we score 2 in something like 5 minutes. You're basing everything on the fact that he had a good game against Alloa, which has resulted in him being our top scorer. Please bare in mind that very similar events resulted in Calum Fordyce being our top scorer for a spell last season.
Based on what I've seen and read this season, yes, I know a lot more about football than punters on the Livi Room and John fucking McGlynn, who is tactically inept.
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Yesterday was as weird as I've felt at a game for a while. I thought we were pretty useless all told, although the second half was an improvement.
Jordan White infuriates the hell out of me. He's by no means the worst striker I've ever seen - in fact he's not even the worst striker on our books - but there are things about his game that, it appears to me anyway, need serious work. For instance, most of the criticism that comes his way is that he doesn't win enough in the air because he doesn't jump - what I see, is a guy who actually DOES jump, but for some reason he always jumps from a standing position. Regardless of your size, that's so easy for a centre half to deal with. Now I dunno if it's because he's misjudging the flight of the ball, or getting his positioning wrong, or because he's not communicating with the defenders who are invariably lumping it up to him. I've seen plenty evidence of his prowess in the air over the last couple of weeks, when he actually gets a run on a defender. But why he insists on meeting the ball from a static position, I don't know. Having said all that, the boy definitely has something. He has a good touch when the ball is on the floor and is a really smart finisher. I really hope he gets back to his form of a month or so ago.
Danny Mullen yesterday, was outstanding in his cameo. Problem I have (and that others have obviously) is that he's very inconsistent. Sometimes it seems that his only strength is running into cul-de-sacs and keeping the ball long enough for a midfielder to tackle him and get the ball back. Other times, like yesterday, he looks bright and confident and can finish extremely well.
Yesterday still felt like a bit of a defeat to be honest, because we looked so very poor at times.
Jordan White infuriates the hell out of me. He's by no means the worst striker I've ever seen - in fact he's not even the worst striker on our books - but there are things about his game that, it appears to me anyway, need serious work. For instance, most of the criticism that comes his way is that he doesn't win enough in the air because he doesn't jump - what I see, is a guy who actually DOES jump, but for some reason he always jumps from a standing position. Regardless of your size, that's so easy for a centre half to deal with. Now I dunno if it's because he's misjudging the flight of the ball, or getting his positioning wrong, or because he's not communicating with the defenders who are invariably lumping it up to him. I've seen plenty evidence of his prowess in the air over the last couple of weeks, when he actually gets a run on a defender. But why he insists on meeting the ball from a static position, I don't know. Having said all that, the boy definitely has something. He has a good touch when the ball is on the floor and is a really smart finisher. I really hope he gets back to his form of a month or so ago.
Danny Mullen yesterday, was outstanding in his cameo. Problem I have (and that others have obviously) is that he's very inconsistent. Sometimes it seems that his only strength is running into cul-de-sacs and keeping the ball long enough for a midfielder to tackle him and get the ball back. Other times, like yesterday, he looks bright and confident and can finish extremely well.
Yesterday still felt like a bit of a defeat to be honest, because we looked so very poor at times.
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I thought we were very much in the game until Sives made a complete hash of it & gave the ball away which led to the first goal. Sives was definitely at fault but there was still work to be done by QoS before they could score & the attempt at defending from the moment Sives gave it away was awful. When Russell had the ball the guy on the far side that he passed to was in acres of space & as soon as Russell did pass it the whole defence followed the ball leaving Russell in acres of space & guess what; while I'm yelling "pick up Russell" or something of that ilk the ball comes over & he scores.
2nd goal also looked poor defensively.
Sives had a 'mare; Talbot was the pick of our defenders.
Kyle did okay for me but his shot was all wrong & you could see it from his body shape as he went to hit it that it would be well wide.
Keaghan was the pick of our midfielders.
O'Brien had some good moments but it was his poorest game for a while.
McKenna started okay & has a very good work ethic but his form has tailed off from earlier in the season.
Glen too is not as effective as he was early season but still usually makes a reasonably decent contribution.
White men can't jump as Jordan seems to be proving. He is very tall so maybe thinks he doesn't have to jump very high but he was outjumped numerous times by the QoS number 4 who was always up earlier & on occasion seemed to have decent "hang time". White is decent on the deck for a big lad & the sooner we start playing the way we finished the game (i.e. running at the opposition, taking them on, feeding the ball in, laying it off, TAKING SHOTS (as per Danny Mullen yesterday) & following in) the better.
Hippo & Mullen undoubtedly changed the game & Robertson contributed when he came on too.
Hippolyte has a superb shot on him & while they don't always get through they are pretty well on on or close to target; he also is prepared to take players on & has them backing off. This is something we need to utilise. Mullen also is prepared to do this.
Annan seem pretty useless just now so hopefully we go right at them from the off on Saturday.
I can't remember any obvious penalty incidents yesterday so can't comment on what some of you have seen. But the refereeing in this country just seems to get worse (much like the quality of football).
Happy to get a point after being 2 down & we looked more likely to a get a winner than they did. and their goalie was very dodgy, which we should have tried to exploit.
2nd goal also looked poor defensively.
Sives had a 'mare; Talbot was the pick of our defenders.
Kyle did okay for me but his shot was all wrong & you could see it from his body shape as he went to hit it that it would be well wide.
Keaghan was the pick of our midfielders.
O'Brien had some good moments but it was his poorest game for a while.
McKenna started okay & has a very good work ethic but his form has tailed off from earlier in the season.
Glen too is not as effective as he was early season but still usually makes a reasonably decent contribution.
White men can't jump as Jordan seems to be proving. He is very tall so maybe thinks he doesn't have to jump very high but he was outjumped numerous times by the QoS number 4 who was always up earlier & on occasion seemed to have decent "hang time". White is decent on the deck for a big lad & the sooner we start playing the way we finished the game (i.e. running at the opposition, taking them on, feeding the ball in, laying it off, TAKING SHOTS (as per Danny Mullen yesterday) & following in) the better.
Hippo & Mullen undoubtedly changed the game & Robertson contributed when he came on too.
Hippolyte has a superb shot on him & while they don't always get through they are pretty well on on or close to target; he also is prepared to take players on & has them backing off. This is something we need to utilise. Mullen also is prepared to do this.
Annan seem pretty useless just now so hopefully we go right at them from the off on Saturday.
I can't remember any obvious penalty incidents yesterday so can't comment on what some of you have seen. But the refereeing in this country just seems to get worse (much like the quality of football).
Happy to get a point after being 2 down & we looked more likely to a get a winner than they did. and their goalie was very dodgy, which we should have tried to exploit.
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Likewise I would blame Sives for many of the defensive slip-ups on Saturday but he’s not on his own. Talbot was carrying the captain’s armband but did pretty much the square root of eff all to organise the defense or shore up the gaps. Fordyce was getting loads of space on the wing and started to use it but although his top speed is okay; his acceleration from a standing start is pretty poor – bit of a handicap in defence. The young lad Rutherford did well again; admittedly he’s still learning and commits the odd mis-timed pass etc. but on the whole one for the future.
The midfield started with the Jacobs Bro’s; O’Brien and McKenna with Glen and White up front. I thought the midfield was quite solid; the Jacobs brothers played well with Keaghan again demonstrating some of the form that won him man of the match time and again whilst McKenna had one of his best games for some time. Unfortunately the weak link really did seem to be O’Brien; too many loose passes and lapses in concentration; Robertson looked far more settled when he came on albeit for only about 10 minutes.
The forward line of Glen and White really wasn’t working; even when White won the ball in the air it was anyone’s guess where it would end up and both didn’t manage well with the close marking that both got. The shake-up in the second brought some real results; having Hippolyte coming on to the left wing (his best position in my opinion) at the expense of the unlucky McKenna and moving Garry Glen more on to the right at long last started to create some spaces in the middle of the Queens defence. An area that Mullen was just itching to exploit. White came in for a lot of criticism and some may be justified but his impact in tying up defenders etc. actually considerably contributed to the other guys getting the space they needed.
Anyway the bad points
1. Let’s face it the defense is pretty much of a shambles; too many gaps; lack of communication and leadership. We need to get this sorted ASAP irrespective of who’s fit and who isn’t.
2. At 33 I’m thinking that O’Brien can still be an important part of the team but shouldn’t be guaranteed a starting berth anymore; Robertson really deserves a run.
3. Very few of our forwards thrive in a close marking environment; that being said some of the passing has either been too far in front of the player or behind (making the attack stop and run back). Also quite a few passes were being intercepted before they reached out player; some of that is the fault of the receiver not being aware of what’s going on around them but also the person making the pass needs to be more pin point particularly when the forward already has two or more defenders nearby.
4. Balls in the air rarely worked out well for us; even when they were well positioned they were easily intercepted or closed down.
The good point
1. We had 55/45 possession advantage over Queens
2. We had 11 shots on target compared to 6 for Queens.
3. The Hippo long throw in – where the h@ll did that come from.
4. Garry Glen – now 2 goals in 3 games.
5. John McGlynn’s tactics – YES I’M SERIOUS – It wasn’t working for the first hour so he shook it up and, noticing that QoS had cut the forwards down to just one to try and strengthen their midfield, brought Mullen in to exploit the gaps whilst cutting back on the defenders. I have a lot of criticism for how we failed to create proper clear cut chances in the first half despite having the lion’s share of the ball but leastways the guy had the balls to adapt to the circumstances (albeit maybe 10 minutes too late).
6. The team’s confidence – you could see the time starting to rebuild their confidence even before the first goal went in; if the game had gone on for another 5 or 10 minutes I have no doubt we’d have walked out with all three points and it would have been 100% justified in my books.
Queen of the South are currently 3rd in the league and there’s a reason they are there. A lot of sides have trouble breaking them down and have only conceded 16 goals so far this season whilst scoring 21 (only The rangers and Hearts have scored more). In my opinion we were the better side on Saturday and should have won easily but for some schoolboy errors in defence.
For me the glass is definitely half full.
The midfield started with the Jacobs Bro’s; O’Brien and McKenna with Glen and White up front. I thought the midfield was quite solid; the Jacobs brothers played well with Keaghan again demonstrating some of the form that won him man of the match time and again whilst McKenna had one of his best games for some time. Unfortunately the weak link really did seem to be O’Brien; too many loose passes and lapses in concentration; Robertson looked far more settled when he came on albeit for only about 10 minutes.
The forward line of Glen and White really wasn’t working; even when White won the ball in the air it was anyone’s guess where it would end up and both didn’t manage well with the close marking that both got. The shake-up in the second brought some real results; having Hippolyte coming on to the left wing (his best position in my opinion) at the expense of the unlucky McKenna and moving Garry Glen more on to the right at long last started to create some spaces in the middle of the Queens defence. An area that Mullen was just itching to exploit. White came in for a lot of criticism and some may be justified but his impact in tying up defenders etc. actually considerably contributed to the other guys getting the space they needed.
Anyway the bad points
1. Let’s face it the defense is pretty much of a shambles; too many gaps; lack of communication and leadership. We need to get this sorted ASAP irrespective of who’s fit and who isn’t.
2. At 33 I’m thinking that O’Brien can still be an important part of the team but shouldn’t be guaranteed a starting berth anymore; Robertson really deserves a run.
3. Very few of our forwards thrive in a close marking environment; that being said some of the passing has either been too far in front of the player or behind (making the attack stop and run back). Also quite a few passes were being intercepted before they reached out player; some of that is the fault of the receiver not being aware of what’s going on around them but also the person making the pass needs to be more pin point particularly when the forward already has two or more defenders nearby.
4. Balls in the air rarely worked out well for us; even when they were well positioned they were easily intercepted or closed down.
The good point
1. We had 55/45 possession advantage over Queens
2. We had 11 shots on target compared to 6 for Queens.
3. The Hippo long throw in – where the h@ll did that come from.
4. Garry Glen – now 2 goals in 3 games.
5. John McGlynn’s tactics – YES I’M SERIOUS – It wasn’t working for the first hour so he shook it up and, noticing that QoS had cut the forwards down to just one to try and strengthen their midfield, brought Mullen in to exploit the gaps whilst cutting back on the defenders. I have a lot of criticism for how we failed to create proper clear cut chances in the first half despite having the lion’s share of the ball but leastways the guy had the balls to adapt to the circumstances (albeit maybe 10 minutes too late).
6. The team’s confidence – you could see the time starting to rebuild their confidence even before the first goal went in; if the game had gone on for another 5 or 10 minutes I have no doubt we’d have walked out with all three points and it would have been 100% justified in my books.
Queen of the South are currently 3rd in the league and there’s a reason they are there. A lot of sides have trouble breaking them down and have only conceded 16 goals so far this season whilst scoring 21 (only The rangers and Hearts have scored more). In my opinion we were the better side on Saturday and should have won easily but for some schoolboy errors in defence.
For me the glass is definitely half full.