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    Post by EdinburghLivi Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:22 pm

    Is Matty Gould the son of Jonathan Gould?
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    Post by ianlivi Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:18 pm

    Grandson I believe (New Zealander) previous club Cheltenham.
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    Post by EdinburghLivi Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:32 pm

    Jonathan Gould of Celtic? Surely he's not that old!
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    Post by ianlivi Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:02 pm

    Apolgies (senial dementsia) grandson of Bobby Gould (Johnathan son)
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    Post by Auld Nick Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:31 pm

    EdinburghLivi wrote:Is Matty Gould the son of Jonathan Gould?

    The twitter link in the earlier post says so; which I think makes granddad Bobby Gould
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    Post by Lexi Collector Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:33 pm

    Reckon it could be possible that he'll be challenging DJ for the number 1 spot?

    Lets hope 'Ibra' is away, players of his quality are why we were so pish for much of last season, still can't believe he was a cult hero among loads of the fans whilst players like Shags were slated rotten, especially on Facebook.
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    Post by Liviforever Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:22 am

    White not scoring for about 16 games was the reason he was getting slagged and why we were pish for much of last season, esp when he missed so many sitters.
    Harsh saying that about Ibra, didn't come in till Jan and did ok in the games he played. Would have had to have seen him in more games to decide if he was anywhere near as bad as you're making him out to be.
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    Post by Lexi Collector Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:00 am

    Shags not scoring for 16 games was all down to McGlynn's tactics. He never got anywhere near the ball and when he did, it was ballooned over his head. Even then he was still the clubs top scorer. Had a couple of howlers, Falkirk away being the worst, but the whole team were playing terribly. Most of the abuse he was taking was harsh. Sekajja, on the other hand, scored 2 tap-ins and did absolutely nothing else other than being caught on the ball a lot. Give me Shags any day of the week.
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    Post by Edward snowdon Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:50 am

    Hey Lexi you talk some shite ! the term you band about for every Livi player apart from the ones you like . Ibra isn't shite and is easily a championship player . Blaming Mglinn for Whites run of 16 games without a goal is laughable during that spell he missed loads of chances. The miss against Falkirk was under Burchill and interesting isn't it that for the cup final and our vital run in he was a sub and we played better without him.
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    Post by Liviforever Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:46 am

    Edward snowdon wrote:Hey Lexi you talk some shite ! the term you band about for every Livi player apart from the ones you like . Ibra isn't shite and is easily a championship player . Blaming Mglinn for Whites run of 16 games without a goal is laughable during that spell he missed loads of chances. The miss against Falkirk was under Burchill and interesting isn't it that for the cup final and our vital run in he was a sub and we played better without him.

    This.

    Wasn't just under McGlynn White wasn't scoring, he scored in fits and starts all season. When he did score in games against Alloa and Dumbarton we scored 4 and 5 goals as the whole team were playing well.  Sekajja scored in tough games where we weren't banging 4 and 5 goals in, tap ins or not he got in there and scored at Ibrox in front of a big crowd, saying he was shite is nonsense.

    Credit to White in our run in, when he was dropped to the bench and came on as sub he did the business, the whole team really stepped up for those games too. His Cowden performance was absolutely brilliant, that was prob the game everyone believed we could stay up.
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    Post by spiggle Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:43 pm

    Liviforever wrote:
    Edward snowdon wrote:Hey Lexi you talk some shite ! the term you band about for every Livi player apart from the ones you like . Ibra isn't shite and is easily a championship player . Blaming Mglinn for Whites run of 16 games without a goal is laughable during that spell he missed loads of chances. The miss against Falkirk was under Burchill and interesting isn't it that for the cup final and our vital run in he was a sub and we played better without him.

    This.

    Wasn't just under McGlynn White wasn't scoring, he scored in fits and starts all season. When he did score in games against Alloa and Dumbarton we scored 4 and 5 goals as the whole team were playing well.  Sekajja scored in tough games where we weren't banging 4 and 5 goals in, tap ins or not he got in there and scored at Ibrox in front of a big crowd, saying he was shite is nonsense.

    Credit to White in our run in, when he was dropped to the bench and came on as sub he did the business, the whole team really stepped up for those games too. His Cowden performance was absolutely brilliant, that was prob the game everyone believed we could stay up.

    To be fair when you're our main striker up front on your own, you should be our top scorer.

    White started well and was scoring and playing well when we played well. Then things got tough, we went on a long barren run, White stopped scoring and started on a long run of missed sitters and lets be honest here, it was a lot of sitters he missed.

    Credit to the big fella, he was benched, we started playing again and he started scoring again. I just got the feeling that big White is one of these players who is great to have when you are doing well but not a player that the team can rally round when we played as badly as we did last year.

    I thought Ibra was decent but too full of nonsense and when he injured himself doing one of his stupid flips after scoring, we didn't see much of him after that.

    Hopefully Buchanan will give us some consistancy up front and hopefully big White has got rid of the yips which caused his huge barren spell.
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    Post by LiviLion Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:57 pm

    White scored 8 goals in 24 games under McGlynn, and 7 in 20 games under Burchill. Don't think the manager made a difference, he just went a while without scoring then got a few in a couple of games.

    Ibra got 2 goals in 15 games, which isn't really brilliant either. Thought he was alright but really didn't get all the hype surrounding him from our fans.
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    Post by Lexi Collector Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:54 pm

    The hype surrounding him was purely because he was a black man with a fancy name. And maybe because he scored a tap-in which anyone could've scored against Rangers, but players with fancy names are always cult-heroes. Look at Mampuya, all the fans who loved Ibra rated him (LOL).

    Admit it, Sekajja was a sand dancer. He'd get the ball, shimmy about a lot and lose it or fall over. Scored a couple of tap-ins but was in the right place at the right time. Mullen and Shags contributed far more. They're players with a bit of technique who can put it to good use (Mullen V QOS, and Shags in the cup final and at Cowdenbeath). Lets put it this way, if we had Sekajja up front against Cowdenbeath that day we'd be in League 1 right now, it was marvelous performance from the big man that day which essentially kept us in this division. I didn't see anywhere near enough from Sekajja to suggest anything other than 'sand dancer'.

    And FFS, don't say McGlynn's tactics had nothing to do with White's game because it clearly did. We were a complete mess when he was in charge, and we'd have the odd game where he'd perform, but when Burchill got our game settled down he looked a much more complete player in a shorter space of time.

    Of all the posters on here who get down to the nitty gritty I'm clearly the best judge of a player, remember you all having a go at me last August/September when I told you all how poor we were...just took time for a shocking string of results and for you all to believe me.

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    Post by forzalfc Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:57 pm

    Ibra was overrated IMO. Would much rather have kept Boulding, but happy to have Buchanan over the 2 of them.
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    Post by KeekTennant Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:14 pm

    With the players being dropped by other clubs in and around the Championship, any suggestions of who we could pick up?
    Provided their wages aren't at what I presume they were at The Rangers, I like Faure, Stevie Smith and Ricky Foster, all three would do good jobs for us IMO and replace the outgoing Dycey, Jase and would provide strength at centre half.
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    Post by Lexi Collector Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:20 pm

    forzalfc wrote:Ibra was overrated IMO.  Would much rather have kept Boulding, but happy to have Buchanan over the 2 of them.

    Definitely. Boulding was fucking shite anaw, I went mental when I found out we'd re-signed that diddy.

    Time to clear out all the deadwood, guys like Beaumont, Rutherford, Sekajja are players that will take you to League 1.
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    Post by EdinburghLivi Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:05 pm

    Got to side with Lexi on this one, did not rate Sekajja at all. Hardly any end product which is just criminal for a forward. Boulding contributed as much in his few minutes in games as Sekajja did in several more. Will be happy to see Ibra out.

    Agree with forzalfc, Buchanan is better than both.

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    Post by EdinburghLivi Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:06 pm

    KeekTennant wrote:With the players being dropped by other clubs in and around the Championship, any suggestions of who we could pick up?
    Provided their wages aren't at what I presume they were at The Rangers, I like Faure, Stevie Smith and Ricky Foster, all three would do good jobs for us IMO and replace the outgoing Dycey, Jase and would provide strength at centre half.
    Surely they'll be asking for too much, even if it is less than their Rangers wage.

    Sure Foster and Smith will have better offers than ourselves as well.
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    Post by Liviforever Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:41 pm

    EdinburghLivi wrote:Got to side with Lexi on this one, did not rate Sekajja at all. Hardly any end product which is just criminal for a forward. Boulding contributed as much in his few minutes in games as Sekajja did in several more. Will be happy to see Ibra out.

    Agree with forzalfc, Buchanan is better than both.


    Still wouldn't say he was shite, Lexi is all extreme, something is either brilliant or shite, there is no happy medium with him. Smile

    Ibra wasn't prolific but he'd do a job playing alongside someone who was, was a bit more solid at staying on his feet than Mullen anyway.

    I'm delighted we've got Buchanan though, def would rather have him than Ibra or Boulding. Buchanan will run at defenders and give White the chance to get in the box, he's also a tricky wee fecker inside the box. The two of them could be really good up front.

    Hopefully Mullen will score a few too, be interesting to see how Burchill is going to use all these strikers.
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    Post by LiviLion Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:49 pm

    Liviforever wrote:Ibra wasn't prolific but he'd do a job playing alongside someone who was, was a bit more solid at staying on his feet than Mullen anyway.

    Both of them seemed to just fall over any time they lost the ball, even if there was still a chance of getting it back.

    Don't think we'll keep him with us bringing Buchanan in, he'll probably end up somewhere like Dumbarton (without a striker atm I think) or Raith (like signing our ex players).
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    Post by Liviforever Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:51 pm

    KeekTennant wrote:With the players being dropped by other clubs in and around the Championship, any suggestions of who we could pick up?
    Provided their wages aren't at what I presume they were at The Rangers, I like Faure, Stevie Smith and Ricky Foster, all three would do good jobs for us IMO and replace the outgoing Dycey, Jase and would provide strength at centre half.

    Longridge is Talbot's replacement, from what I've read he's a good player with a promising future that is looking to follow our own promising youth players that have got moves to bigger things.

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/new-livingston-defender-jackson-longridge-5941390

    We need to bring in a couple of CB's though, def light in defence.

    Heard again that Keaghan is in South Africa and was going for a trial at a club out there, no idea what Kyle's plans are.
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    Post by Liviforever Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:03 pm

    LiviLion wrote:
    Liviforever wrote:Ibra wasn't prolific but he'd do a job playing alongside someone who was, was a bit more solid at staying on his feet than Mullen anyway.

    Both of them seemed to just fall over any time they lost the ball, even if there was still a chance of getting it back.

    Don't think we'll keep him with us bringing Buchanan in, he'll probably end up somewhere like Dumbarton (without a striker atm I think) or Raith (like signing our ex players).

    Dumbarton like bringing in loan players from the SPFL Premiership, wouldn't surprise me if they do that again this season. Maybe Alloa will take him now we nicked Buchanan off them.

    Good piece about Buchanan in here, tried his best to be respectful to Alloa, pretty obv he thinks we're a big club compared to them though. Very Happy

    He said: “I think it would be unfair to Alloa to say that being at Livingston was a massive step-up, because they are very organised and a great club.

    “But having those extra days and working as a full-time player instead of training a couple of nights a week after working another job is certainly a bonus.

    “I’m excited to be at Livingston and can’t wait to get the season started.”

    Aye Liam we know what you really mean. Laughing

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    Post by Lexi Collector Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:19 pm

    Liviforever wrote:
    EdinburghLivi wrote:Got to side with Lexi on this one, did not rate Sekajja at all. Hardly any end product which is just criminal for a forward. Boulding contributed as much in his few minutes in games as Sekajja did in several more. Will be happy to see Ibra out.

    Agree with forzalfc, Buchanan is better than both.


    Still wouldn't say he was shite, Lexi is all extreme, something is either brilliant or shite, there is no happy medium with him. Smile

    Ibra wasn't prolific but he'd do a job playing alongside someone who was, was a bit more solid at staying on his feet than Mullen anyway.

    I'm delighted we've got Buchanan though, def would rather have him than Ibra or Boulding. Buchanan will run at defenders and give White the chance to get in the box, he's also a tricky wee fecker inside the box. The two of them could be really good up front.

    Hopefully Mullen will score a few too, be interesting to see how Burchill is going to use all these strikers.

    Happy medium/average was the majority of our squad last season, tbh. White, Mullen, Glen, Fordyce, Talbot, Jamieson, the Jacobs brothers and McKenna were all average players. I thought our 'good' players were Gallagher, Cole, Pittman and at times Hippolyte. The rest were utter shite.
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    Post by ianlivi Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:52 pm

    Talk on other site of Kyle to Dundee and Keaghan to a S.A. Club.
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    Post by Liviforever Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:55 am

    Lexi Collector wrote:
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    EdinburghLivi wrote:Got to side with Lexi on this one, did not rate Sekajja at all. Hardly any end product which is just criminal for a forward. Boulding contributed as much in his few minutes in games as Sekajja did in several more. Will be happy to see Ibra out.

    Agree with forzalfc, Buchanan is better than both.


    Still wouldn't say he was shite, Lexi is all extreme, something is either brilliant or shite, there is no happy medium with him. Smile

    Ibra wasn't prolific but he'd do a job playing alongside someone who was, was a bit more solid at staying on his feet than Mullen anyway.

    I'm delighted we've got Buchanan though, def would rather have him than Ibra or Boulding. Buchanan will run at defenders and give White the chance to get in the box, he's also a tricky wee fecker inside the box. The two of them could be really good up front.

    Hopefully Mullen will score a few too, be interesting to see how Burchill is going to use all these strikers.

    Happy medium/average was the majority of our squad last season, tbh. White, Mullen, Glen, Fordyce, Talbot, Jamieson, the Jacobs brothers and McKenna were all average players. I thought our 'good' players were Gallagher, Cole, Pittman and at times Hippolyte. The rest were utter shite.

    We're almost in agreement here Lexi, except substitute White, Mullen, Glen, Fordyce, Talbot, Jamieson, the Jacobs brothers being average for inconsistent. They all proved they could be good in games but just didn't do so enough.

    Don't think McKenna cut it over the season, was ok to start with but really faded midway through the season, maybe just needed to take a step backwards to come on more gradually.

    Totally agree with you on Gallagher, Cole & Pittman, and from the cup final onwards about Hippo. Still maintain he wasn't getting a fair crack at it earlier on and would've shown how good he was sooner if he had been.

    Also thought O'Brien looked jaded 3 quarters through the season and when he was dropped for a few games he looked better, don't think he has it in him to last a whole season at this level now.

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